"Old Souls" - Scorpios, Leos, Capricorns, Pisces?

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By Christofers Flow

What is an "Old Soul"

Just what is an "old soul"? This is a phrase that precedes "new age" ideology and reaches back into our old English lexicon. It embraces the idea that a particularly, wise, world weary, or compassionate person "goes back" into a time that precedes the present. It is a tacit acknowledgement that certain people, just walking around with the rest of us, might have a "pre-incarnative" past, as it were, that makes them seem to have a wisdom or understanding that the rest of us don't have. You can get new info at: Christofer's new website at: http:// www.signofastrology.com.

These days, "old soul" fits into our current blended culture of eastern religions and "new age" concepts intermixed with our western culture. When used, it is a complimentary phrase. It is not used as an insult or in a perjorative way. It is intended to impart a feeling that there is something special about this person. It says:

1) This person can absorb the trouble they are going through.

2) This person is wise and can understand the trouble you are going through.

3) This person knows something the rest of us don't.

4) This person has been around every block there is, and still decided to come back here in the flesh to visit us all. They can not be perturbed, dismayed or desolated.

Aries, Capricorn, Scorpio, Leo, Pisces?

I have heard speculation that says old souls are "congregated" in certain sun signs. Aries, Capricorn, Scorpio, Leo and Pisces are mentioned but you can hear other speculations. The idea goes that really ancient souls would not bother to come back as certain signs, but would prefer to come back as other more complex or more fascinating signs.

The speculation goes like this:

Aries are so full of power that their horoscopes are engineered by self driven old souls who know what they are all about. Capricorn has such a grasp on their overall purpose that they must be old souls. Scorpios just know it all and feel it all, they must be old souls. Leo is so grand and looks like they have a whole bunch of past, and must be old souls. Pisces sum up the whole human experience, they must be ancient. Actually, with some imagination, you can make these kinds of statements about every sun sign.

"Ancient Shards of Light, Countless Aeons Old"

If you subscribe to reincarnative ideas, you will find, from the Kabbalah, that our ancient spiritual origin goes back to a "pre-Edenic" past, in which after our creation by the Divine, we looked all around and declared in our relative youth that we needed experience to be more worthy of God's grace in creating us with all of our initial glory. "The Bread of Shame", a phrase that many have not heard of, is the idea that we wanted to be able to be counted more worthy of our original grand state; and so we sought out physical manifestation. In doing so, we have "lost our way", and need to find the path back. That is a very short version of a coded breakdown of Genesis, but let us pause, and just ask the basic question, whether you have an Asian, New Age, Metaphysical or Gnostic point of view, isn't every one an "old soul"?

The Wheel of Fortune

When we think of the sun sign in its current manifestation, we can not conclude that any sign is shallow, or a "young soul", as it were. We are all manifesting current mind sets, attitudes and value systems that might appear to be more materialistic and less spiritual than others, but what you have to remember is that the soul's journey is to cover the journey on the Wheel. Truth be known, you can not know someone's past, you can only assess their current personality and character. Yes, you can have the opinion that a certain person is a "shallow, adventurous, covetous, indulgent jerk", but that does not mean that the person is not an old soul. Maybe this life time they are going through experiences that they have not gone through in the last 20 lifetimes. Maybe the person you are seeing is fresh at this kind of life. And maybe, just maybe, the "old soul" that you have seen and judged to be so, is finally "getting the point" of a few misspent lives that he has recently lived.

We are all "old souls". Some of us are unconscious. Some of us are more spiritually aware. Some of us are more judgmental, some of us are more merciful. We all display the myriad of energies that emanate from the vast realm of human experiences, that all eventually become a part of our divine character. It is good to know an "old soul", they are generally pleasing to be with because they emanate a peacefulness. But remember, the friend that you have out there, that is going through a tortured and volatile life is getting experience because they are also an old soul, who might be learning some deep, valuable and eternal lessons. While we are getting the butt end of a thudding punishment that is judgment, it is good to remember that Mercy is always around the corner, ready to give all of us "old souls" a chance to integrate our lessons.

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GPAGE Level 4 Commenter 2 years ago

Cool hub! .....From your "Old Soul Aries friend." ;

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Christofers Flow Hub Author 2 years ago

Exactly. We are all on this journey, and you have stopped in a pretty cool place in this current life. Be the Ram that you are for all its worth!

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shamelabboush Level 1 Commenter 2 years ago

Though I'm not mentioend above (aquarius) but it is nice hub :)

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AEvans Level 7 Commenter 2 years ago

I am more merciful and more spiritually aware the most frightening thing for me is dreams that become reality if I believe it and see it , things come to pass. I am a Capricorn. :)

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Christofers Flow Hub Author 2 years ago

Capricorn is all about upward movement. They have a mystical tap to power. But it is a challenging mystery to have gifts and experience manifestation. The world is about "interdependent co-arising". That means that everything is in place at a given moment, and manifestation looks simple, but on something else, the pieces are not yet in place and there is creative waiting. Capricorn intuitively gets this.

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AEvans Level 7 Commenter 2 years ago

Interesting I did not realize this and the creative waiting is the hardest part. Why do we intuitively have this when others do not?

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Christofers Flow Hub Author 2 years ago

The Capricorn is in a life pattern that has to do with mountain climbing. The goat is an inappropriate symbol. Search the internet for the images. Its kind of a fishy climbing creature. In other words, its indescribable. The image of your origins and your knowledge is kind of locked up. But what you know, is that there is a way to climb and succeed in this life. Thus a capricorn is always inwardly on "serious", kind of like the Scorpio. They are super smart because they can be charming, up on everything, apparently frivolous and care free and yet they are like a lionbacker or a spy. They have their own mission, and only they know it. They worry deeply inside, and are always concerned about the balance sheet and resources. That's because they know that capital is the way you move through life. As with all things, the Power of Cirulating Self Reinforcement tends to make them even more inwardly serious, because life's resource issues can always be on your mind if you let them. Capricorn could be semi-retired from itself and still accomplish all of its goals. That is the funny thing about them. Marvelous sign.

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caravalhophoto 2 years ago

Interesting reading from an "old soul" or a Pisces...great hub.

sheila b. Level 4 Commenter 2 years ago

Do you think some people don't have a soul? I've been contemplating that idea. Would like to know what you think.

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Christofers Flow Hub Author 2 years ago

That is a very deep question that some systems do pose an opinion on. I would venture to say YES because of the depth of some evil, and yet there are some people that are DEVOID of soulful qualities. I would say that one system I know of says that a person can "lose" his soul; as in "it goes away from the reincarnated individual".

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leigia67 Level 1 Commenter 2 years ago

I'm curious what you think about reincarnation?

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Christofers Flow Hub Author 2 years ago

I personally believed in reincarnation before I studied astrology. It was the birth of my first two daughters that made me realize that souls come in WHOLE, with all the trappings of personality intact. And of course they are now 37 and 34 and they are those same intact whole personalities that they were as babies. Its much deeper than that now, but that was my first experience that pushed me toward a multiple life process.

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jayjay40 2 years ago

Brilliant hub, love the way you write, very easy to understand and interesting.

e.r.clay 6 months ago

Nice to know that about Capricorn. Been reading about wondering. We all have our own strengths and weaknesses and in moments of self-importance we become blinded to the strengths/weaknesses in others (depending on the time). It's all about balance. Life is a tight rope act, or whatever you make it. The mind operates on metaphor. What is your metaphor? What are you gonna use it for? :P

Capricorn Matters. 3 weeks ago

I think capricorn is more than that. ok, im a capricorn. no, really i am. anyway, if its upward we go, than the top of the moutain shouldn't be enough for us, right? we're swimming in the water and see the mountain. that drives us, to shed and grow. and struggle and strive. to climb and press forth. eventually, the top of the mountain will be obtained, but in my eyes, i'm looking "UP THERE!" success is in those clouds.. how do i get "up there" without having my head in the clouds??

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Christofers Flow Hub Author 3 weeks ago

Capricorn Matters: Most of my basic readings assume that all signs are not really "evolved" or "enlightened". Though I do introduce the topic through references to "transformation". Your statements about yourself are not only "Capricorn", but they are the issuances of your soul. I agree with your aspiration. Capricorn is truly misunderstood. Your comment enlightens me.

Alexander Pilea 9 days ago

Hey you are wrong there sir, did you read kabbalah? Pisces, aquarius, capricorn and saggitarius are the most spiritual and mature signs, they are the older souls. Aquarius reached the level of Binah and pisces Chokmah which are the last before the state of Keter

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Christofers Flow Hub Author 4 days ago

Mine was philosophical speculation. I read the Kabbalah, but in the end, they are using the same kind of their own ancient opinions too. I respect the great Rabbis who died 500 and 2000 years ago, but I think you are coming to this conclusion based upon your interpretation. No matter. If you are right then you are right.

This article was not really intended to be a "who is an older soul than another, nahnahnahnahnahhnaaa., it was intended to get people to think about the very idea of reincarnation, and that they may have lived past lives.

Thanks for your powerful opinion though. It is good to see people studying the Kabbalah this intensely.

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